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* Get 3 Candy Corns
* Harvest Lighthouse Cove
* Make Fruit Cider Twice
Rewards:
* 100 XP
* 1 Founder Sheep
* 2500 Coins
* Get 3 Tasty Fishes
* Harvest 90 Cove Cranberries
* Improve the Cove to Level 4
Rewards:
* 200 XP
* 1 Sea Lion
* 2500 Coins
* Get 3 Wrapped Candies
* Make Fruit Cider Twice
* Harvest 90 Chandler Blueberries
Rewards:
* 300 XP
* 1 Mausoleum
* 2500 Coins
* Harvest 90 Cove Cranberries
* Make Wild Blueberry Pie Twice
* Improve the Cove to Level 5
Rewards:
* 500 XP
* German Shepherd
* 2500 Coins
* Complete an Aviary
* Harvest Lighthouse Cove
* Make Black Raspberry Wine Twice
Rewards:
* Complete an Aviary
* Harvest Lighthouse Cove
* Make Black Raspberry Wine Twice
* Harvest 1 Aviary
* Harvest 110 Kennebec Potatos
* Make Dill Potato Skins Twice
Rewards:
* 1000 XP
* 1 Tide Pool
* 2500 Coins
163 Comments:
ahhh.. un ended quest
it is time we cut our losses and get back our lives as this is starting to wear very thin and getting very boring, this is my opinion and not those who read my message :-)
yes!this is the first quest that i can finish because i dont have to expand my lighthouse cove!
I'm in the middle of the horse quest now and run out of time....with only 35 plots how can we harvest 100 items...everything has a time limit....not good
I hope this Quest start real soon
You just do not give enough time for the quests..i am a full time farmer and still cannot get them finished...!!!...just finished quest 2 and you give me 16 hours to finish 3..!!!!!..very unfair..:-(.
IM DONE WITH FARMVILLE GOTTA SPEND CASH TO PLANT THAT MANY CROPS...DONE
This is stupid....sorry but we can only harvest 35 crops at a time & a lot of people don't get to finish the quest'. Not everyone can sit at their computer 24/7 waiting on them to ripen. If we have to do so many, they need to allow us to have more room for crops on that tiny little farm...just saying...that's my opinion.
GIVE IT UP FARMVILLE!! THESE QUESTS ARE GETTING STUPID....AND A POOR EXCUSE TO FORCE PEOPLE TO EXPAND THEIR FARMS TO ACCOMODATE YOUR AMOUNT OF PRODUCTIVITY FOR THE QUESTS!!!! I, FOR ONE, WILL NOT SUCCUMB TO IT!!! I WORK TO HARD TO THROW MY MONEY AWAY ON A GAME!!!
How can you finish your quests if your request for help don`t show up on your wall half the time , or if it just don`t show when you harvest something (like my zoo that i harvested 2x). i`m about to start shopping for a new game to play .
farmville has taken the fun out of this game being a FARM its turned into questville & breedingville..with all the quest & breeding pens & so on..the Lighthouse was fun UNTIL they had quest after quest after quest that we can NOT finish cuz they are so damn stupid to listen to there players & put expaning into COINS minus having to add more friends..not to mention the fact we keep running out of time..on the EC farm we get 2 weeks to do our quest & its like the Lighthouse ones we get less then a week..also the things we have to harvest has a 1 day harvest on it so yeah you need 90 of them theres 3 days gone..yeah so either cut the # down or change what needs to be harvested...better yet turn it back into the original farmville when it was FUN to play
I agree with all the above statements completely, there is never enough time to finish a quest !
i do agree with those statements. it's too complicated to finish the quests, we don' have enough time to complete them !!! the fun of this game has gone away :(
Just want you to know that your slowly killing the people who pay your bills. You not only don't give us enough time to do these things with no breaks between but you don't reward us enough to make us interested in doing them. Now i think more time should be spent working out the problems with this game than thinking of quests to fill our every waking hour..You need to realize that our lives don't revolve around farmville we all have jobs friends and families and lots more to do than spending our hard earned money on paying people who run a game who never take time to fix anything....i could write a book on the problems with farmville the things that would improve it as well as pointing out all the problems with it but if your interested have someone contact me at Farmer Mel at facebook.com
Even tho I truly love FV, it has become way tooooo costly in FVcash to get the things FV should be giving us as part of the game....no more FVCASH for me...and yes, FV, this is an official complaint to you...
i agree. it is work and not fun. plus you have to pay to finish things
please let us make our farm bigger with our coins and you will have many happy players. It will make us more interested in playing.we have no room on there for crops.... and so on....thank you hope you understand
You can use both farms to harvest crops for the lighthouse cove, you just cant harvest the animals on both, but your right some of the quests they make it impossible to finish unless you pay dollars!!!!VERY FRUSTRATING!!!!
Something that no one has mentioned...breeding horses and cows to get great babies doesn't get you anything because you still have to use FVcash to grow the animals...it seems you have designed the changes in the games to blow through as much FVcash as possible.
I'm so sick of all these overlapping quests!!! and we can't coin upgrade our cove!!! Limited plots!!! grrr fv you are ruining our fun game
pokvarenjaci,sve sam zavrsio i odjednom mi da rok da harvestiram zoo,a ne dozvolojava da to uradim na home farm ili engleskoj
I agree with everyone! i love to play farmville but have no extra money for farmville cash! It is very hard to complete Quests when you only have a small farm to use. Some of the things you can use on both farms but not all of them!! May have to give up and find something else to do with my time!!!!
this is no fun any more a lot of us dont have the money to up grade our farms if you do it for coins and let us have all the new things for coins would be nice money money well w just dont have it please here what we are saying and help us ouy here
We need bigger plots on the farm and more time to finish the quests. I have not been able to finish any of the quests due to having to harvest 70 or 90 out of 35 plots. This is totally unfair to everyone
let us have more then 45 with out paying for it and let us be able to take things from all 3 farms why set it up for only 2?????? is it the money??? i am agreeing with everyone else its getting boring and just wrong that we have to pay for everything REALLY !!!!
Hey Zynga, we need much more time to finish these tasks. Purchase or license extensions for coins. Not fair!
ich liebe es farmville zu spielen,aber das ihr macht ist schon abzocke,wir haben das geld nicht um lighthouse cove zu vergössern also können wir auch diese mengen von aufgaben nicht erfüllen,macht die vergrösserung mit coins, wird bestimmt gut ankommen und die farmer werden es begrüssen!!!
Turned into a LOT of work, hasn't it?? Quest after quest..and no time to finish most of them..unless you want to spend hard earned real money to get virtual farm cash to expand. Zynga has gotten so very greedy..even though they get paid to host banks, insurance companies, credit cards, and a host of other retailers. Personally, I do what I can, and if I don't make it on time, so be it. I'm not very competitive, so I don't really care if it gets done in the time allotted or not.
I too enjoy Farmville, but Everyone is right. My husband just about shut my computer off because I spent money we didn't have just so I could finish these quest.I love it but guess all good things will come to an end.Please fix this. Thank you
I agree with all of the above. I am an older lady on a fixed income and cannot afford to spend real cash on a game. I prefer to be able to eat and pay my bills.
I am level 190; am retired so have time to do the quests when it lets me share which is seldon as it BROKEN. Normal everyday family friends/neighbors do not have a prayer. The quest do not let you ask for help nothing is EVER fixed, support try to pacify us without FIXING the constant problems. FV is going downhill like a run away train. ZYNGA are cutting their own throat with quest noone can finish with all the ongoing problems and constantly trying to force us to spend FV Cash to finish a quest for the most disappointing gifts ever. Such a shame as it was ONCE the most popular and FUN game but with all the breeding pens, etc, crops are gone and 233 plots on a farm that cost all that FV cash to expand is doubly STUPID on part of person who plan to obtain all the FV cash they can till they run the game into the ground which is in the near future. No NEW NEIGHBOR requests for sure..all are looking for fun games as there is life after FARMVILLE.
I too like many others like to play farmville, but you are not giving enought time to finish the quest
You need to make expanding easier if you want us to continue. The lighthouse is way out of control. Not everyone has 30 or more friends and when you get to level 6 and above..you need 30-40-60 x 3 to finish..that isnt fun..this is suppose to be fun. Not spending my little income on your games...sorry. I'm done with the Cove.
i never get to finish mine either so sad :(
yeah see a german shepherd would love to have gotten it BUT the time limit is STUPID I am sick of the game I used to LOVE
i cant finish mine either not enough time
this is mad............it make's me feel like giving the game up.
Just finished a quest on the cove this morning and it came up with another quest which needs 70 red clover and as someone further up said we can only do 35 at a time (unless we pay for more space - NOT GOING TO HAPPEN) and when I clicked on the quest it said - ENDS IN 21 HOURS - DUHHHH Red Clover takes 1 day to grow and we have to grow it twice!!!! This is getting very, very aggravating! The other aggravating thing is the Raffle - You NEVER, NEVER have enough tickets to get the GOOD items!!! What is the point????
All of the above
It's really stupid and the result of these crazy quests is that I'm quitting my farm. I've had enought. It's clear that ZYNGA is making us buy FVcash to expand the Lighthouse Cove only to be able to finish the quests. Sorry, I'd have to be insane to buy virtual plots, animals, etc. for real cash. That's not for me, I really know how to spend my real money. I'd rather buy some real food for my real cat.
I agree with most comments above. The quests are too time consuming and becoming more increasingly boring. Zynga has taken all the fun out of the game and they have become extremely Greedy. Everything you do now is for a price. If we had to do everything we have been given, we would need to spend 24/7 on here. We all need to get out and visit some real farms and enjoy the fresh air.
You guys should take some time to understand the basics of the game a little more. Really this isn't that hard. Here's a few tips.
-As of now you can upgrade your farm with gold to allow 60 plots... no more complaining about only being able to plant, that's irrelevant.
-Read ahead on this site so you know what you plant before you get to the quest. Right now you should all be planing cove cranberries to so when you get to the 2nd quest you'll already be on your way. (don't harvest them till you have the quest though).
-The quest timer you get is a running timer through all of the quests, meaning after you finish a quest it doesn't start over... all you get it what you had left over from the last quest. Watch it and be sure you're doing things on time.
I've not spent a dime on anything farmville related and I finished all the last quests and the bonus' a couple days early. A little planing and know-how and it shouldn't be a problem for anyone. Oh ya, and go buy those two expansions that are now available for gold purchase...
Oh and another note... just as buying things with money in this game. These quests are totally optional. who cares if you miss a few... the rewards aren't that great anyway. Would be different if they were more than just another bird or a apple chicken. You're not missing out on much. If this game was fun without the quests, then it should be fun if you're not doing them.
It's a game, remember to have fun while doing it.
I'm really getting sick of these quests now. I've only finished the apple one today & will finish the Cove one later & already there's another! This is turning from a game to a full time job :(
I agree with all abuve things too expensive I will not buy for cash as retired dony have it all fun going out of game never can afford horses special items unfair to those that just want to have fun
You can expand the cove for coins now
we all to exspand are farm with coins then we can make are quests
Bunch of "BS"...expand the farm to at least 70 plots, in hope to finish a quest....Then new quest come out and you need 90 plots...zanga you suck! and taking all the fun out of playing farmville!!
I think its too much so fast .... so much new things...I dont have fun and often too expensive...I dont give no more money for expanding or anything else..to zynga... sorry, I normal love farmville since a long time, but now 3 farms are too much.
Check Your special horses. I lost my Nightmare and Candy cane pony last week when new horse paddock was released..Zynga refused to help me...my apple dunk tank doesn't work and have lost most quest prizes....REFUSE TO SPEND another dime on this game
I feel insulted that you think by bringing something back from the past and pay with coins everyday is going to appease me....SO NOT......
you people are so greedy it is sinful..God you remind me of our lawmakers in Washington..squeeze everything out of the working class..we do not have STUPID written across our foreheads..do you honestly think I am going to pay hard earned real money to expand a game farm???? lets get real!!!
we should be able to trade coins for farmville dollars!
there are two upgrades for the lighthouse cove in the market,if you add neighbors.
bring on the quest enjoy doing then but do need more thing to buy with coins even tho I do buy farm cash
Slogans will not follow until you can not buy more land with coins, I get tired of that only good things to buy tickets FV, thanks for the notifications.
Why is it that we can now "friend" people for farmville but the only thing we can do with them is send them a gift- Isn't the whole point of having lots of neighbours is to be able to help with all these quests we now have to do? Also, what is up with posting for help in collecting items you need? 3/4 of the time it doesn't even show up on the news feed. I think it may be time to park the tractor...... :(
great news but to harvest cove cranberries take 1 day it`s given me 5 hours does not look good
I agree with all of the above,and when we loose things from our farms and from our gift box, there is no one to help get these back or or compasate us for what we lost.And we cant get what we do need since most of the time the news feed does not post. Yes, it is JUST a game and I DID really enjoy it but, I do work full time and have a family and it feels like I have added 3 bedrooms and 3 baths to my daily cleaning of my house(with 3 diff farms)to attend to each day. It has lost its fun it feels like a added job.
I agree with most of you. It is time consuming and there are to many quests and no time to finish them.I gave up on tying to complete most of the quests. Time to try another game and not a Zynga one.
It is beginning to get boring! And besides it is getting to cost to much you have to have farm cash for most of the stuff and that is stupid!
This is a free game, and nobody is making you play. All the complaining is amazing. I had no problem finishing all the bonus quests for the last round of quests and I've never spent any money on this game.
To sum up what most of you guys are saying. "I hate this game because it tempts me to buy things with real money, even though I don't really have to. And, I hate all the new stuff they keep putting into this game that I didn't pay for, because it's making it too time consuming, and I have no control over myself."
LOL you guys are crrrrrrrrrazy!
Thanks Zynga for continually giving me new things to do in this game. And I love the fact I don't have to pay for any of it!
crazy? Farmville is getting to be more of a job than fun. I have personally never paid one dime to play the game, but it seems you HAVE to play Cityville & Farmville to get all the items you need. I'm ready to sell everything on Farmville & Cityville and get back to a real life.
What items do you need that you can only get from cityville? I've never played that game, and don't miss out on getting things done in this game.
good, I Love it
Some of us need more time because we don't have the farmville cash to expand our cove so we can't plant much at a time and some it takes atleast 1 day to be able to harvest then u gotta plant the same thing again..like all the potatoes on one of these missions...all I can plant at one time is 45...come on that's ridiculous the way this is done...
I am done its getting to be far to much thought a game was for fun not work and to keep up with everyone else enjoy I am done
I myself like the quickness to the new quests, for me it keeps the game interesting. But I totally agree with everyone that the crops should not take so long to grow. The other thing that I feel is unfair is how many crops we are supposed to grow at one time. First it increased to 70 crops and now it has increased to 90 crops at one time. This is all geared to force us to expand. Zynga once again is showing their greed. If I want to spend money on decorations or buildings that is my business, I should not be forced to spend money on expansions just to be able to play the game. If we don't expand then there is no way to complete the quests on time. Also, the crops wilt so fast if they are not cut down in time so we have to spend money to revive them. Zynga has many large corporate sponsors ( capital one just sponsored them last week) I wonder if these sponsors will continue to pay if the amount of players starts to decrease? Zynga needs to start showing us, the players, some appreciation and stop trying to milk every dime out of us. One more thing that is pissing me off is how much each expansion costs. The largest expansion to lighthouse Cove costs 195 FV. That is almost $4O. That is crazy, and none of the expansions can be bought with farmville coins. As I already said, I might spend money to buy a building or decoration but I, for one, will not be forced to waste money expanding. Zynga either needs to lower the price on these expansions or they might find that a lot of us end up playing other games.
Zudos 2 all of u I agree, it is really not fun any more it is 2 the point that i almost want 2 stop playing.nonstop with the darn quests. What happened 2 the wonderful awesome prize we wher 2 get when we finished all the tasks on the English Farm i finished, Never seen any thing did any one else??
farmville has taken the fun out of this game being a FARM its turned into questville & breedingville..with all the quest & breeding pens & so on..the Lighthouse was fun UNTIL they had quest after quest after quest that we can NOT finish cuz they are so damn stupid to listen to there players & put expaning into COINS minus having to add more friends..not to mention the fact we keep running out of time..on the EC farm we get 2 weeks to do our quest & its like the Lighthouse ones we get less then a week..also the things we have to harvest has a 1 day harvest on it so yeah you need 90 of them theres 3 days gone..yeah so either cut the # down or change what needs to be harvested...better yet turn it back into the original farmville when it was FUN to play
I agree totally ...all these quest are getting so stupid...i have cancer and use to enjoy the game .but, now it's too much like a real job and i don't have time to finish all the quest...we need to be able to plant lighthouse crops on the home farm...there is no way to get them planted and harvested by the time limit u give....i feel like to giving up...that is pretty much what i've done......
how many farm can a person work we have three it take up a whole damn day if you try to do every thing get to the point i am thing of quite on top of that you what fv cash do you think where rich are what it sure not fun any more
I don't do quests anymore..especially the Cove ones. (I stopped playing Frontiersville because of the quests)
I have played FV since the very beginning and used to love it, so now...I'm playing it the way I used to, which means NOT being dictated to and held to ransom by all these damn quests. I don't have the time or inclination to be on here all day! The Cove will be a pretty little addition and nothing much else, as I stopped upgrading before I got the tacky mermaid.(ugh)
So...choose which parts you want to do and ignore the rest, is my way now...and I feel LIBERATED!!
FV have at last listened to expand cove with coins WOW. BUT always a but with FV, still limited to amount of plots, and of course they want more to harvest, so still have to do twice, what a Swiss
I agree with all the above. They have taken the fun out of the game. They should give us more time.
i also feel they should give us more xp's when we visit neighbors farms, since we have 3 farms.
I loose a quest and then I have 3 others to finish. I have been playing this game for a while. What is going on. We don't have enough time to plant and harvest because we have a whole 35 plots and then the amount of time is ridiculous on the quest when you only have 35 plots. This is driving me crazy and makes me feel like giving up on the quest. There is way to much stuff to do. pig and sheep breeding craft house wine making on and on. I need a break. I cannot keep up.
Уже начинают надоедать все эти задания!..не хватает времени на задание...нет возможности сидеть весь день в игре!...остается не обращать внимание на задания, а просто тупо сажать растения(((
Hey Zynga I think you should PAY us for working your games I think we have become testers for you long enough and we should be paid at least that way we can still play FV, CW, AW, and all of your other game.
i so agree with all the above, not enough time for some quests and every time i turn around you have more stuff you want us to spend money on. i will not be buying your cards anymore sense i have been screwed twice and not give the rewards !! so i may play but, no more money will be spent !! this is a complaint !!
Poor FV, you changed into a boring game!!! Build, on all the farm the same things,
harvest to many stuff with less on crops !!! Lighthouse Cove is pretty sure but all these quest make the game boring, gift box is overfilled and who needs all that stuff ! You better change Farmville into playing with the seasons ,English farm has no autumn landscape :( !! and give us more XP`s for visiting Neighbours instad of expand the farms only by Farmcash !!! Also there are not enough items you can buy for Coins. Hope there are more players they think like me and farmvilee turn back into a game you play with joy !!!!
I agree with the people above this is getting crazy.U want us to do these quest then say we have to pay cash for certain things,well if u havent noticed the economy sucks and some people are with out real jobs.Get real lets us play for free and fun.And another thing farmville freezes all the time nd things go to cyber space and when a report is made this is what we get"we are working on it"well its been over a month with mine and no change yet.Help your players or they will all leave because u are not taking care of us.
It's hard to resist the challenge of the "Quests" and Zynga knows this... but I will resist and not be "trapped" into buying with FV dollars. bought some before but budgeted it in and picked and chose and planned each purchase of a horse or such. Will not be FORCED !!! Will no longer buy FV dollars.. Level 150 and starting to get fed up with the whole thing.. Zynga, you pushed too hard.. I realize it is a business for you, but MAYBE you got too GREEDY???
Pretty sad it comes to this just to make money off people that don't have jobs or are disabled! Why don't you just make a game that people are aware they have to pay to play! Before they get involved!
I am sooooooooo sick of the bonus quests on Lighthouse cove. I choose not to put items on this farm. Now I need those items to complete the bonus quests.....NOT FAIR!
I totally agree with all the above comments, We should be able to expand for coins,making the Quests easier to complete. That is the least Zynga can do,for all the people who choose to play their game, which at one time was fun.
FARMVILLE NEEDS CONDOM'S NOW!
YOUR GAME IS NO LONGER FUN!
WTH IS WITH THE QUEST AND HAVING TO PAY TO PLAY!
REMEMBER WHEN YOU PRICE ITEMS THE LESS IT IS THE MORE PEEPS BUY!
I HAVE OVER 30 BABIES THAT NEED FEED AND I DON'T
DO THEM ANY MORE SAME WITH SHEEP AND PIGS PENS!
WTH R WE TO DO WITH ALL THE BABY COWS! WE HAVE TOO PAY FVC TO GROW THEM=) YOUR COMPANY HAS MADE THIS A SAD DAY IN FARMVILLE
all I can say- quests are fine as long as it is fun but when you put all those demands on people to expand and need cash to do so and know ing if they don't they can't get it done, plus all the gifts that are invalid and you can't get them or you lose items, then expand expand and expand but we are not give enough time for that either- you have taken the fun out and helping neighbors, I used to go to each of my neighbors and help them, but can't anymore- soon very soon I plan to just quit it is losing its fun
I too, wish they would fix things that are wrong before adding a bunch of new stuff. I haven't been able to ask for anything or share anything in weeks! It goes through the motions but never shows up on the feed. Also, the Farm Cash requirements for quests is just crazy! Do they not realize that some of their players are not able to purchase Farm Cash every day? And then there's the time limits that run out on you if you didn't purchase farm cash... Can't we please go back to having fun?
it would be nice to be able to finish a quest,half the time it wont post to my profile,going on to long, fed up big time.
HELLO! HELLO!! Anyone from Zynga? Can you hear US?????
HI I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU,ITS RUINING THE GAME AND ZYNGA ISNT HEARING US,,THOSE QUESTS ARE KILLING THE GAME OR BETTER TO SAY NO TIME TO FINISH THE QUESTS IS KILLING THE GAME. AND WHY CANT WE BUY DECORATIONS OR ANIMALS OR TREES FOR COINS EVERYTHING NICE AND GOOD IS FOR FARM CHAS :( DONT LIKE THE GAME AT ALL
Time limits can be got around, have you tried growing the crops on other farms to speed up the process or read farm mastery to get a jump on the quest. It works. I learnt this by missing out on the end of the first cove quest so know where you are coming from. Positive thinking guys and gals.
For the people complaining about not enough room on the Cove for all the planting and harvesting that needs to be done for the quests:
You can use the other farms!!!
I've never used my Cove for farming and I have managed to finish all of the quests.
LOOK AT BONUS #2
Lighthouse Cove Chapter Bonus Challenge 2!
* Complete an Aviary
* Harvest Lighthouse Cove
* Make Black Raspberry Wine Twice
Rewards:
* Complete an Aviary
* Harvest Lighthouse Cove
* Make Black Raspberry Wine Twice
to much plots at to much time .. i dont want to wait 2 or 3 days for one quest .. is no more funny this game ..
for whom said u never used the cove for quests then u have not finished all quests. U do not get the quests for the cove on ur home or english farm...so u have missed out and did not complete them all!. and yes u can use your home and english farm to help..Have not had a problem finishing those quests...Its the Cove I am sure that everyone is chattin about. so dont put your 2 cents in if u never have used ur cove for farming!
What I find frustrating is you cannot grow anything from the English Farm or the Home farm on the Cove Farm or visa versa (and I've tried). At least with the other farms the crops are interchangeable - otherwise I'd not really have a problem with not having plots. Let us buy everything with coins, please!!!??
not that zynga will read this but i think lighthouse cove is a big waste of time. you can't complete the missions due to not wanting to use hard earned money to expand..the crops take days to harvest. it's just a waste of time
What do we do with apples?????? I got all the gifts...but apples keep growing, what's the point
I am totally bewildered that people say you can grow stuff on other farms. I don't know what kind of computer you have; but when I am at home farm there is no option to select for example ladyslippers. The key ingredients to these recipes are strictly at lighthouse cove. You'll hate me for this but at the beginning I completed the cove and expanded as much as I could. I am a relatively new player (six months) and level 118. I find the feed very erratic, cannot distinguish visually easily for example getting a boost or joining someone's crafting team. I have tons of orchards which have made me coin wise very rich but am so tired of harvesting and waterings ... I just tell zynga give me the watering cans or I will quit the game and they do. Because I am new I do remember the previous good version and EC was so nice until they started all the breeding pens, trading posts, craftshops, zoos. I hate zoos and have all my animals loose except 2 aviaries, 1 livestock pen and one each horse paddock and cow pasture. I knew at the beginning it would end up limited so I expanded all the way have 245 plots and finished cove ... so I no longer have to waste my time trying to beg people for stuff. Gifting is a horror with the new platform as well as what used to be game stores but is now news feed. Which of course we are supposed to manipulate in some way to make it comprehensible. I cannot. I also do not like the aspect of POPULARITY CONTEST between players. I play alone ... get very little from the feed because i just find it too difficult and full of pardon me ... crap. My orchards alone are a hassle and have become boring ... so I am just going to harvest them and throw away the seedlings eliminating the need for watering cans. They say "join the forum." Has anyone tried that? I have an advanced degree, am very literate and familiar with a couple of languages and I cannot read their damned letters. I am retired and need to keep occupied. I don't know how a working person can handle all the intermingling of products from farms. Know what I mean. Like in pub you have to use things from LC. I honestly thought that if I finished the cove they would make crops interchangeable like they did with EC but no luck. Remember what they said ... LC was supposed to be for DECORATING. That is why they limit the plots ... so how is it logical to do these challenges ... quests ... whatever with a decorator theme and limited plots. My farm is beautiful. That was what I wanted. To keep it simple ... then they say put a zoo on LC. JCMF! come on ... a zoo in a new England hamlet. I have built an elephant sanctuary on my home farm and that is really nice. I told them because they have gotten a lot of cash from me when I was working that things were getting out of hand. And I appreciate the above gentleman's point that they don't fix anything.
It's a game people!!! -- I can't believe all the griping... If you are having troubles go to the support page and send an email. Every time that I have done this FV has been very responsive they have even reimbursed me for my troubles. The reimbursement fit the problem... Like I purchased a wither clock for 30 days for my Country Farm and it wasn't working properly, something they were working on... After emailing them they gave me 5 free unwithers which I really didn't need, but when my neighbors crops withered it let me revive them for them if I chose. By the way my clock was fixed too. They are constantly upgrading that is why there are so many glitches. I don't know how many times it was just my computer that just needed to be updated too. Firefox, Explorer and Adobe are constantly making upgrades...As far as what to do with stuff it's pretty obvious...Like the Bobbing for Apples game. Simple... place the Apple game, which they give you for free, invite neighbors to your "party" get 5 apples for each neighbor, then either send or request apples from the free gift page to collect FREE premium stuff...It stinks because I already purchased a candycorn horse which I could have gotten for free had I known...live and learn...It's not rocket science...Again, it's just a game...Okay, you can all lash out at me now...and no I don't work for zynga or farmville just like to play my game
You can expand a few times with coins.....
YOU ALL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THE QUESTS!! THE TASKS THAT THEY HAVE IN BETWEEN THE QUESTS ARE NOT MANDATORY AND NOBODY IS FORCING ANYONE TO DO THAT PART. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO EXPAND IN ANY WAY TO FINISH THE QUESTS AND YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND WITH COINS FOR AWHILE NOW. I HAVE NOT PAID TO EXPAND YET I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FINISH EVERY QUEST THERE IS TO DO. FURTHER MORE, THIS GAME IS FREE TO PLAY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GAME, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY A DIME TO PLAY IT!!! IF YOU WANT SOME OF THE NICER THINGS ON THERE THAT DO COST MONEY AND YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH THEN BUY IT, IF NOT THEN STOP COMPLAINING BECAUSE AGAIN YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY STUFF TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!
NO FUN ANY LONGER I QUIT...
I THINK WE TO ALL JUST PLAY LIKE WE STARTED OUT WORK YOUR FARMS VISIT YOUR NEIGHBORS FARMS AND FOR GET THE QUEST
I find it hysterical about how many people that actually complain about the Raffle Game. It's funny because that right there just proves that nobody will be truly happy. That game is 100% free yet people STILL complain because they haven't won anything. When I have a problem with FarmVille/Zynga I have always been overly compensated. I always manage to get the quests done and even get the bonus quests done as well. Face it, if people didn't have FarmVille to complain about they would be complaining about something else. Can someone point out to me where it says I HAVE TO PAY REAL MONEY to play this game?? I am always reading where people complain but I have yet to see that!!! If you are all so un-happy then seriously, why are you still playing?? If I am as un-happy as you all sound then I stop whatever it is that I am doing that gets me that upset!! Is someone at your house hiding behind your computer screen twisting your arm until it almost breaks to force you to play?? If so I can call someone and get help to you if you leave your info on here (LOL) Anyways, keep on complaining because I enjoy reading all of this in between my crops growing etc....BTW you have 3 farms, if you plant everything right you will only have to harvest 1 farm per day, it's not Rocket Science!! :)
I agree with everyone, I want to expand my lighthouse land and for me it is impossible, and I have 73 neighboors and my sister in the law have 35 neighboors and she expand her lighthouse, you understand that? She doesn't buy with farmville cash, she buy with coins, why not me? And somethimes:
- my neighboors disapires
- it is impossible send gifts
- impossible finish the request
- impossible to publish things
I hope they make something to make it is better, if not I thing do not player anymore. It is my opinion, have a great day and thing about.
how do you make the fruit cider?? help please!! thanks!!
ok farmville ur really making me mad...ive asked 2x now for wrapped candy and its not posting to my wall now i have to wait another 5 hours and have wasted money i have saved up (which is not much) to try to futher myself...plus ive done those things to earn extra money and havent received the money...i guess its time to cut my loses and quit this game!!!
tHEY ARE TO PUSHES AND i WILL NOT BUY MORE PLOTS. i WOULD RATHER EAT THAN GIVE $$$$$$ TO THEM FOR MORE PLOTS
you are right kim, and we need to grow up our farm without farm cash , we need it by coins.now am in level 270 and i didn't get any farm cash from the level 251.
so how can i buy or bigger my farm with farm cash if the team zynga didn't let me get it more ??????
Farmville c/o, Zynga be fair with everyone we cant all pay for farm cash I for one can't.an invalid and senior sit,,,I enjoy my games but feel really penalised when I can't buy what I want with coins ,and never have enough time to complete a challenge as I can't harvest quick enough as I don't have enough cash to buy larger upgrades ,would be good if we could buy for coins quicker .... can you please look into this as I am sure lots of people will agree with me....
Spending FV cash to expand is just nasty...when we need to have a certain amount of crops to meet goals. keep it up FV and you will lose tons of people!~
I think that the higher the level you are the more farm cash Zynga should give you . Also they are getting stupid with these quests and I agree with all the negative comments that have been made , increasing the amount of crops that you need when you don't have the room and I WON'T buy any of these stupid cards to increase my farm cash . Can't finish a quest because the tasks won't post to your page half the time , that really pisses me off after spending the time to complete each and every thing only to have the time expire , thats BS. GET THE CRAP RIGHT ZYNGA!!!!!!
I'm an old FV gamer, and yep it's no fun anymore. None of my so called posts appear on my wall, hence no one receives (trees, feed, mystery babies etc. etc.. ) Come on Zynga puleeze fix these problems so that we can have fun again.
I agree with all the above I cant finish the quest because i cant find out how to make the cider unless i buy farm cash i have lots of othger money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you have to make fruit cider in your restaurant on the cove just like you make stuff in the spa, bakery, pub etc.
if you already have a spa bakery or whatever on the cove and NOT a restaurant on your cove, if you sell it back you can purchase the restaurant for coins from the shop to make your fruit cider. I completed this quest and did not spend any cash
you can now increase your cove and amount of plots to 75 without spending fv cash. There are 2 more expansions in the shop for coins. I am at 75 plots for planting and have not spent any cash to get there
having all these quest we havnt time to do our farms and some people cant afford to extend with fv s we should be able to buy more land with cash
I for one don't know about the rest of you but it won't let me post my quest most the time so there for it's done before i can sent it to my fb for others to click on this has been going on for a week now so if it keeps it up im just gonna stop playing fv as i just can't get no where with our fv sending my post to fb
JEERS TO FARMVILLE:
There shouldn't be a time limit on quests. It takes the fun out of the game.
Spending hard earned money for Farmville Cash is ridiculous. This is how you lose long time,hard core players and make the game not a game any more.
The cool decorations don't even have the option to buy them with coins,only farmville cash.
Coming out with Farmer's Appreciation week is cool,IF we really felt like you were showing appreciation. Some of the rewards are pretty lame and nothing t do with the Holidays or Season we are in at the moment.
Cannot do much on any of the farms if nothing POSTS!!! Never ending problem, wether using Google Chrome or Firefox, clearing caches at least 3 times per day - still no result in posting!!! I am just going to ignore the quests from now on :((
I am the one that does the Jeers and Cheers as status messages. It is a shame that so many people are disgruntled and dissatisfied with the quality of Zynga and especially farmville.
I am disabled, and have hours a day to kill,but part of my disability doesn't allow me to sit at a computer all day and just waste time.
I used to play Farmville because my sister gt me into it. I quit because it was not only boring to me but a waste of time as I saw it.
I am back and playing again now and find that I am so disgusted with the whole Greed thing Farmville is showing by charging people to play and do quests on there. What do they think they are, WOW? Not happening.
Yes I know alot of players (hardcore and long standing), and the above complaints are not only viable but the truth. I have heard so many of my friends quitting Farmville and others that just are not happy with the way the games is going.
I,for one have already started shopping for other games to play and other sites to play them on.
Sign Me....Not A HAppy Camper
A person is not allowed a life other than playing FarmVille. In order to complete these quests in the specified amount of time AND without spending REAL money to upgrade the farm, one most be prepared to sit at their computer 24 hours a day so that the items can be harvested, the fields plowed and the seeds planted. Even with that it is hard to make their deadlines without upgrading. Yep Dumb, I may be however, STUPID, I am not
For the people that posted "You can use your other farms to grow the crops needed for the quest on LC" this is totally not true. Those crops are locked 2-LC. If you want your voices, complaints and concerns heard you should all turn in reports and suggestions directly to Zynga. This site has nothing to do with Zynga so all of your posts about the way FV and Zynga are conducting things is wasted.
we are all frustrated
So true, and..., they have to learn how to count too, one quest had us harvest 3 pets, i had 3 on the Cove, it took them 3 days to count the third. And ofcourse you run out of time if they don't count the crops you,ve harvested and it takes 1 more day. It's hard enough to finish when things work, which they never do but this is ridiculous.
This is getting crazy. There is no way we can finish the quests in the time frame they give. They need to refigure that and set reasonable times. They just don't want us to get the extra gifts they offer but they want the money from us.
all of the complaints are amazing. I have finished ALL the quests, and ON TIME. In reading some of the posts, like, "how do you make cider"; are you kidding me? How long have you been playing? You DESERVE not to get through the quests. You have to be smarter than the game, thats all and when FV Nation posts what the quests are, you need to PLAN AHEAD for your planting and harvesting. Its not rocket science people! Also, you need ALOT of neighbors, so go get some more if you need them to click on your requests. You will end up having MORE THAN ENOUGH items!!! You complainers are talking like Farmville is a modern day Rubik's Cube!!!
farmville lose a lot of players, because we can finished our quest anymore.
we have to do to many things and have enough time for it.
farmville is losing a lot of players, because we can not finis our quest anymore.
we have to do too many things and we have not enough time for it.
OMG!!!!!! QUIT COMPLAINING!!!! YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO...IF YOU HATE IT SO BAD...QUIT PLAYING THE GAME...CRY BABY SISSY PUNKS........
For you that say stop complaining I bet your the ones that make it hard for everyone by spending real money and your the 1s that think it's ok that only paying players can get ahold of live chat now.....AND IT IS A FACT....Try to get them if you don't pay......you no longer can..AND WITHOUT US THERE IS NO GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!
I am sorry, when people plead poverty about being on fixed incomes, or that they claim they don't have maybe 2 or 3 bucks for a horse every now and again, I do agree here that begging farmville to give 'everything' away because ppl don't have a dime is GROSS. Farmville is NOT Welfare. However, FV is going over the top here!! For these quests they are requiring that you put yet ANOTHER building on this LITTLE farm, and in the last one you have to harvest over 100 plots???!! This is just absurd that FV is mandating HOW people spend their money. I don't mind paying for the things I choose to spend my money on but I WON'T spend my money on things FV is designing in such a way that it forces you to play to stay in the game. I am with other folks. If this absolute Greed of this company and absurd time required to keep up with all this SHEEAHT that are shoveling at us, keep up, even though I do have quite a bit invested in this game, I will quit and block the game. This is really over the top, where DUH!! This is a Game! It is SUPPOSED to be fun, and there is NO WAY FARMVILLE doesn't see endless complaints now by almost everyone playing the game and they are doing what about it? Nothing. So, what will Farmville have left in the end for customers? The 2 or 3 out of 50-100 that say shut up and don't play if you don't like it.
I am almost looking forward to the crash of this company. ha ha ha I actually predicted the communication/IT bubble would burst in college. I later said the housing bubble would burst and I was right again. I can bet my boots Farmville's HUGE profits will plummet and their bubble will burst as well and I bet Gov won't have a dime by then to bail them out. LOL
After looking this over again, I will personally go only as far as completing the quest to get the dog. I will NOT put another stupid pen now on this farm when I have junked up my home farm with all these pens and animals and I definitely will not expand to plant 100 plus plots. Yes we can plan ahead as someone said above and I do that, for example I make a recipe for the next quest. But I have already used all but 1 of my free insta grows I have collected over a long period of time to get through the time requirement, where this all equates to FV is missing nothing in how they are doing what they can to ensure everyone pays to play this game. I paid when it was my choice to spend on what I wanted. But no more when you have to pay just to get a stupid chicken or another pond. They can keep them!
I am with 'totally bewildered' above. I am no moron. I have been playing for about 8 months and I am at level 300. I am educated with at least 4 science majors, have read extensively over the years on my own time where my knowledge likely equates to a Master's minimally. I have worked as a tech repair person in the technology field. I handled gliches in software for cellular & paging for VIPs in fortune 500 companies and I fixed these gliches in literally minutes. Though, this huge company has STILL not fixed the countless tech issues with the game in now a MONTH since they rolled out the cove?!! That is Unacceptable!! I also agree, that I saw it coming as well then FV started pounding us with the craft, trading buildings, silo. I knew they were up to something. Then low and behold out came all these pens to give us what? a place for chickens, horses and cows that we already have? Well, it was no surprise to me to see that this is exactly when they started charging significant money for expansions, indeed after we were flooded with new buildings. It isn't rocket science to see FV fully intended to bury us with these buildings with one intention only, to make us pay for their newest expansions. And now, I agree again with 'totally bewildered', I actually live in New England and love my pretty quaint little New England town I have designed. Though, I have had to take out buildings I paid for for these junky pens? and now in the newest quest on this page we would need to junk up the new farm with yet another crappy looking pen. Not I! I have sold literally hundreds of chickens and it is beyond absurd that we now have another building to give us more chickens and we need this on the new farm why? For Zynga to keep pushing in every way they can to get us to PAY PAY PAY, that is why!
If you did not get the German Shepherd, it is not loss. It never moves, does not wag it tail - nothing. Too many pens costing too much to get the pens. I have hundreds of eggs, baby animals growing and it takes forever to get enough "stuff" together to enlarge pens. Way too much feed to harvest the babies. AND - very difficult without spending real money to grow foals and calves into adults. AND - the apple quest brings lots and lots of apples, but it seems that once I could redeem I can now only buy things. I have hundreds of apples but not a single place to redeem as I evidently got my quota!!
I JUST HAD MY LAST $80 FV CASH STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I love the quests and the challenges here... It challenges me how I manage my time between my real industrial job and my virtual agricultural job. I finished each and every quest and challenge that FV has given to everyone. AHEAD OF TIME!!!
i gotta to agree with ya guys its getting too costly to do quests and impossible to expand all they want is cash cash cash what makes them think we are rich
to person complaining of how few plots are on cove: I plant these crops on my first farm,a lot of them, which is only farm that ever held 100 plots. I like chandler blueberries around the purple skeleton unicorn I have in middle of garden on cove-go together well.I get 35 crops, FV calls it 6 bushels, all who ordered get theirs,everyone is happy. I do other 65 crops on First farm.Veggies, fruit-they count them.Spose cove-only plants wont grow there tho-
Rain, I have no clue what you are talking about, first because what you state makes no sense. The first farm, is the only farm that ever held 100 plots??! I don't know what planet you are farming on but I have had over 400 plots on my h/f. Further, everyone is NOT happy, ha ha ha you might want to read these boards again. Most everyone is disgusted with Farmville's ever increasing Greed and lack of any commitment to give a quality product/service. Last and most certainly NOT least, you can only plant the cove crops on the cove!!!If you have manipulated something in order to do something we all don't know about, which I seriously doubt because you can't even write so people know what you are talking about, by all means let us know because when we go to the home farm or english farm, the cove crops are locked and can not be planted on either of those farms. pfft!!
I'll never finish these quests.... Around 60 fv cash just disappeared out of my account... whatever not sure if they want happy farmers..bummer :O(
How do you make the fruit cider
Why not give us our land upgrade after finishing a certain amount of quests. Kind od like the rewardville thing, only not that stupid.
I was spending much more on this game UNTIL the restrictions on having to buy upgrades to the COVE to finish quests. People like having a choice - and I guess instead of choosing to spend even more money to play, lots of people are choosing to forget Farmville. What a shame - as this is really a fun game - but lots of my friends from the game are letting their land go to fodder because of some of the recent changes to the game.
Ditto to all of above!!!
Too many Quests . Now we have several things going at one time. I am losing a lot of neighbors due to everyone quitting and going to other games with all the complications of farming.This is not relaxing anymore but a lot of work. Not even mentioning the cash involved in stead of coins. Please keep this game simple.
I don't understand the statement about using the other farms...all the cove seeds do not show up on your home or english farms. When you have to plant 110 Ken. potatoes it take 2 days or FVcash to shorten the time. If you know another way, please tell.
The person that stated he/she finished all the quests like when? a few days ago, either paid farm cash or is a liar. There are 2 posts that state this and it sure appears to me they are written by the same person. However, countless other people are complaining numerous blogs concerning FV, quests etc. Pay this person no mind that is displaying arrogance and all I am seeing here that is stated is that everyone but that one person is stupid. Pfft!! OBVIOUSLY, if anyone doesn't see the game is Intentionally rigged to mandate how players use their farm cash, and/ or they must pay farm cash if they want to stay in the game, it is they that are STUPID!!
Btw, I spent a LOT of farm cash on my new cove farm and worse by FAR, farm cash totally disappeared from my account AND I paid for things I didn't get. Though, I have contacted FV in the past and they resolved things like this immediately, this time the rep resolved virtually nothing in a list of things that have gone wrong. This is flat out unacceptable that a computer can STEAL earned money and stupid Zynga reps state I am a farmer too and I understand your frustration. I do not look to contact a farmer 'that feels for me' when things go wrong in the game!! (This just INSULTS my intelligence!!) I look to contact a PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME!! The game is soooo time consuming and working so badly, this is aggravating ENOUGH and surely who wants to contact an IDIOT rep twice that might as well say I am a farmer and I understand but sorry your money is stolen and that is life. PFFT!! So I surely wouldn't recommend anyone invest their money in this game at all to get these quests done. We MUST pay to eat and have shelter but FV is INSANE that to believe we will tolerate a requirement in the game that you MUST pay for your make- believe property on the cove farm.
FARMVILLE- STUFF IT!!
I don't have enough time, and it will not let me buy more plots, help.
This is most ridiculous. I do agree with everyone on not enough time. I have cute my losses because I refuse to use farm cash to up grade my light house cove. I have been playing for over 2 years now and it is time to stop. They require to much gift giving from your friends to complete anything and they have to many things going at once to even be able to complete anything. Farmville as gotten way out of control....
http://farmville-masters.blogspot.com/2011/10/all-new-6-lighthouse-cove-chapter.html the bonus 2 rewards are wrong on this... typoooooooooooooooooo.
i agree with all the above comments!! it's about time to look for a new game to play!!fv has to many problems with it & is rigged to make us pay for upgrades with fv cash & also to make us use our cash to complete quests on time! i'm not doing it!!! fv will not return any fv cash due to their errors in the game so it's time to say good bye!!
How many people will agree to pay for a car that doesn't work, or buy a washing machine and when we get it home if it doesn't work we will say oh that is ok. ha ha NO ONE THAT IS WHO! Though, fv has the brass ones to expect us all to pay now when they can NEVER get anything to work right?
Well, I for one know full well it would be a fat chance I would get my money back that I have paid to play this game where any other company would be reported to Consumer Reports for this. But I do agree, it is time to cut my losses. I am not wasting another dime with this company. I have started playing other games that are free- but I don't actually feel it is reasonable for a game to be totally free but you bet your boots if I bought a monopoly game I sure would expect all the pieces there. Well FV is a broken piece of junk where pieces are missing in programming, or whatever the case is that makes this game run like crap, and the fact that they require ppl to pay for this now more then ever before is CRIMINAL!
Post for request are not posting, I can complete the rest of the quest...but since I can't post to receive the candy corn, I wont be able to complete! grr I have emailed everyone I can to see about this being fixed, and not received anything back...shocked no. I too, as alot of you are DONE with the game or really close to it. Very disappointed in the game in the last couple months and it doesn't look like it's gonna get any better :(
for the past 3 days i am trying to post help request for "3 wrapped candy" in lighthouse quest 3. but unable to do so.
The prizes for the quests have gotten better, like the animals at the end is ones you would have to spend farm cash on before so if you finish them great you get a farm cash prize hence why you need farm cash to be able to finish all of them plus the bonus ones. It's not like they punish you for not finishing the quest.
The only players these quests benefit are those who buy farm cash...... the time limit is unfair, there was never any limit to the amount of plots you could plant... so is this a new trend????? If so, what's the point .. the fun is over..... now it has to become just another added expense.... who really has money these days to throw away on nothing!!!!
There is a problem with not being able to post request. The easiest thing to do is close the quest box, go to your market stall and get a bushel or three and try to share/post. If it doesn't post exit out and close then reopen your browser and try again til it posts. Then you can post your request. I also agree that they are trying very hard to get you to use farm cash. When the farms were 35 plots you had to harvest 70. Now that expansion is available for coins and everyone has 75 plots, they want you to harvest 90 or 110. That's greed.
I went ahead and brought 75 plots however I don't think I'm going to be able to purchase more . I can't get my 90 harvest done and then get the bushel I need to make even with 3 ovens. I've tried to get the ones we can grow on our farms but you won't allow us to grow it on the other farms . I find it impossible unless you pay money that I have to stop doing .
just realized i can upgrade lighthouse cove..i upgraded 2 times w coin..costing 2 mill 500 thousand nd only hav 75 plots now..45 bfor....15 mor plots for each upgrade,,while i could use coins..15 plots..ha ha..if ya think ur bing generous, think again..UNFARE nd a JOKE..in fact dowm right insulting...Zynga ur losing ppl...soon FV will b thing of the PAST..there r other games that don't ROB ya..ya may keep some..i think you will lose more then ya keep.. Zynga ur bing GREEDY nd very unappreciative to ur loyal players..
ON THIS QUEST WITH HARVESTING 1 AVIARY, HARVESTING 110 KENNEBEC POTATOES AND MAKING 2 DILL POTATOES SKINS, YOU DIDN'T GIVE THE TIME TO EVEN GROW THE POTATOES, AND THEN YOU HAD TO UPGRADE THE BUILDING TO MAKE THE DILL POTATOES SKINS, COME ON PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE US THE TIME TO DO THESE QUEST YOU ARE MAKING UP. BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING THESE GAMES ARE READLY GETTING MAD ABOUT THIS. WE'LL GOING AS FAST AS WE CAN AND STILL NOT ABLE TO FINISH A QUEST. SO PLEASE COME ON AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND THEN ON A TIME OR TWO ON THIS QUEST FARMVILLE KEPT ME REFRESHING MY GAME AND I COULD EVEN ASK FOR THE HELP I NEEDED TO GET THE THINGS MY FRIENDS NEEDED TO SEND ME. SO PLEASE START THINKING THESE THINGS OUT FIRST BEFORE YOU START THEM. THANK YOU
Your game is starting to SUUUUUCK!!!! Too bad we weren't getting paid by you weekly cuz this is more like a job than a game. PAY UP SUCKERS!!!! I know alot of people who are probably going to quit playing including myself!!!
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